BBC News - Big Society is my mission, says David Cameron
Cunning Mr Cameron .. cuts in services .. to create the vacuum .. building up the big society .. flood it with volunteers .. to fill it ..
.. young and naive Mr Milliband .. Cameron's cuts undermining .. his big society society idea ...
Cameron's cuts .. promotes it .. paves the way .. more likely ...
.. charities as well .. for spending cuts .. well, voluntary means without pay .. live with idea .. charities .. social entrepreneurs .. getting paid well ... to do the charity work ..
there is no money to spare .. in Cameron's Big Society .. there is hardly enough .. for the HIGH Society .. to get by ..
and the other thing Cameron said .. responsible citizens .. how does Mr Cameron promotes responsibility? .. by law and order? .. imported zero tolerance ideas .. the enforcers strengthened since he came by .. their long arms reach everywhere .. and especially the masses, the so-called law-abiding citizens .. that they don't need their arms poking into their every day affairs ..
total eclipse of their minds .. the long arms have ready made solutions for every problem and puzzle they come up against .. everything .. they don't have to think .. they have others to think for them .. the knowing-all enforcers .. how can the masses learn responsibility .. if they are not left and, many times not allowed, to think for themselves .. will Mr Cameron bless them .. with responsibility?
let me promote an idea of what Cameron's Big Society will actually be .. states of citizens and not states of corporations
Showing posts with label abolish money. Show all posts
Showing posts with label abolish money. Show all posts
Wednesday, 16 March 2011
Wednesday, 3 November 2010
Economists toying with the idea of scrapping money.
Clarendon Lectures, lecture 1 EVIL IS THE ROOT OF ALL MONEY by Nobuhiro Kiyotaki London School of Economics, a macroeconomist and John Moore Edinburgh University and London School of Economics, a microeconomist foreseeing the future ..of money.
"The overall title for the lecture series is "Money and Liquidity". But
let me say straight away that, of these two, we think liquidity is the key.
Money -- that is, non-interest-bearing fiat money -- is merely the
consequence of a liquidity shortage. As I shall explain later, money is not
a logical necessity. Indeed, money may eventually disappear. It may be
driven out by ultra-liquid, privately-issued securities that earn interest.
In our view, Monetary Economics should be displaced by Liquidity Economics."
That is an interesting thought. Money, not a logical necessity, may eventually disappear. And what of all these that drag along with money and mollify the individual. Power, fame, 'sex appeal' and what other else one can think of. Though the suggestion of being replaced by ultra-liquid, privately-issued securities that earn interest, makes one wonder what is in their mind, and how would that affect people's relationships, which, by the way, it might not be their concern at all but the doubts shed on the usefulness of money, it is, what is worth acknowledging the points made.
As for interest again, compounded I gather, loansharking at bay, these ultra-liquid securities, would be what? Issued by on-the-money individuals, tycoons and the like, bypassing banks and other corporate bodies and possibly evading state control. Capitalism of its worst kind. Foreseeing the domination of the world affairs by moneyed individuals, out to replace elected governments? Mad from power-hunger, Doctors No's and other fictitious characters, the now Bill Gates, Turners, Murdochs, Steve Jobs, out to conquer and dominate the world, to own and make revenue out, of countries, continents, the entire world may be not the limit, having to rely upon James Bond's fellas to save us from?
Monetary economics, exercised by states, public expenditure, budgets etc etc, to liquidity economics? How would that translate into people's lives? Foreseeing the end of states? Is that so umairh
I haven't read the rest of the pdf, as yet, but that raises intriguing thoughts on what's in the minds of economists. To whether that would lead from the very perpetrators themselves to the freedom of humankind from its slavery to money, or on enslaving further human kind to a harsher boot.
The unhinged dedicated ruthless uncompromising perpetrators, providing support with their theories to their masters, to whom they are in the payroll. It is up to humankind what the future holds for money, and if it doesn't do what is supposed to do, then why keep it.
"The overall title for the lecture series is "Money and Liquidity". But
let me say straight away that, of these two, we think liquidity is the key.
Money -- that is, non-interest-bearing fiat money -- is merely the
consequence of a liquidity shortage. As I shall explain later, money is not
a logical necessity. Indeed, money may eventually disappear. It may be
driven out by ultra-liquid, privately-issued securities that earn interest.
In our view, Monetary Economics should be displaced by Liquidity Economics."
That is an interesting thought. Money, not a logical necessity, may eventually disappear. And what of all these that drag along with money and mollify the individual. Power, fame, 'sex appeal' and what other else one can think of. Though the suggestion of being replaced by ultra-liquid, privately-issued securities that earn interest, makes one wonder what is in their mind, and how would that affect people's relationships, which, by the way, it might not be their concern at all but the doubts shed on the usefulness of money, it is, what is worth acknowledging the points made.
As for interest again, compounded I gather, loansharking at bay, these ultra-liquid securities, would be what? Issued by on-the-money individuals, tycoons and the like, bypassing banks and other corporate bodies and possibly evading state control. Capitalism of its worst kind. Foreseeing the domination of the world affairs by moneyed individuals, out to replace elected governments? Mad from power-hunger, Doctors No's and other fictitious characters, the now Bill Gates, Turners, Murdochs, Steve Jobs, out to conquer and dominate the world, to own and make revenue out, of countries, continents, the entire world may be not the limit, having to rely upon James Bond's fellas to save us from?
Monetary economics, exercised by states, public expenditure, budgets etc etc, to liquidity economics? How would that translate into people's lives? Foreseeing the end of states? Is that so umairh
I haven't read the rest of the pdf, as yet, but that raises intriguing thoughts on what's in the minds of economists. To whether that would lead from the very perpetrators themselves to the freedom of humankind from its slavery to money, or on enslaving further human kind to a harsher boot.
The unhinged dedicated ruthless uncompromising perpetrators, providing support with their theories to their masters, to whom they are in the payroll. It is up to humankind what the future holds for money, and if it doesn't do what is supposed to do, then why keep it.
Monday, 1 November 2010
System Busting: Abolishing the Money System. Can we afford not to?
Abolishing the Money System. Can we afford not to?
29 Jul 2002 @ 14:58, by Linda Simmons
Abolish Money??!! How can we possible afford not to.
by Linda Simmons
When I first heard the concept “abolish money” I struggled with it. I loved the idea of not having to be focused on money for survival, but I couldn’t imagine what would replace it. Socialism? Communism? All things that we know will remove some freedoms. But when I began to think in terms of Abundance, I was able to shift.
I'm interested in starting a discussion of this concept. Please read full text and add your comments. :)
Abolish Money??!! How can we possible afford not to.
by Linda Simmons
When I first heard the concept “abolish money” I struggled with it. I loved the idea of not having to be focused on money for survival, but I couldn’t imagine what would replace it. Socialism? Communism? All things that we know will remove some freedoms. But when I began to think in terms of Abundance, I was able to shift.
All of those systems, capitalism, communism, and socialism are based on a sense of lack. A belief that there is not enough for all, a belief that someone has to “control” the resources.
When we let go of the idea we need to “control” the resources, we begin to recognize the abundance for all. Matter of fact we can see how capitalism is actually depleting our resources at a faster rate and without regard for the good of the whole. And if we don’t care for the good of the whole, we really haven’t taken care of any of us, for we are all connected to the whole.
There are times when we have to look at systems that we do because they seem to have “always” been there and ask...is this no longer serving me? This is a system that needs to be looked at closely.
We are currently trying to support a system that:
Supports and encourages competition instead of cooperation.
Dominates governmental decisions.
Encourages large scale environmental destruction...instead of only using what we need.
Encourages the creation of substandard “cheaper” goods to create return markets and to create larger profit margins.
Discourages maintenance and safety...again because of costs.
Drives a media focused on manipulation.
Drives products that thrive on addictions.
Uses fear as a motivator.
Creates polarity among people...perhaps even more than than sex, race and religion.
Is one of the leading reasons for crime in this world.
Uses up a tremedous amount of energy that could be directed toward actually making the world a better place to live.
When you consider credit, the government deficit, the stock market and financial institution games...its hard to see what is “real” about the system and the artificial nature of it begins to show through. Money has nothing to do with creating resources. All the resources, labor, ingenuity and technology exist. Money didn’t create these resources But we attached money to these resources and gave OUR power over to it. Money is almost like the fear of machines taking over...at one point is was developed to serve us and now we find out its in control. Or consider, those who have learned to master money are in control...not those who know how to master the resources. I’ll let you consider which skill is more important to our society.
OK...so money is a problem...but what else is there? The new concept is simple. Take money out of the equation is all. As I pointed out, money did not create the resources, technology or ingenuity...we just attached it to this things. So all we have to do is unattach it...let it go...just like we abolished slavery. We just said we aren’t going to have it anymore.
So I know this is stirring up your thinking, so let me move into some questions and answers to get the discussion going in your own mind.
How can we possible change the foundation of our society? What would take its place? Wouldn’t there be chaos?
I’m going to ask you to think about these questions. Not run and do statistical studies and calculations, just take a minute, get quiet, go into your heart and ask these questions. That is exactly where I went and received great comfort around my answers.
Would there be chaos or cooperation? My gut sense is there would be both, but in the long run cooperation would win out. And it certainly couldn’t get anymore chaotic then how things are now.
Wouldn’t we need to control the resources? Make sure everyone gets a fair share? How do we decide what is fair share, wouldn’t that need to be based on what they provide to society?
This is where I deviate from some of the other abolish money system plans. Again...this is coming from my gut feeling...we don’t have to “control” resources, we don’t have to judge what is fair or not fair, just cooperate and work together...we can work it out.
If you want to move into one of the big mansions and it is available, by all means go for it. If you want to build a big mansion and can get enough people together to help you build it...go for it. But this is what my gut sense tells me...if the big mansion is no longer a sign of wealth, matter of fact, ANYONE can have a big mansion...are you still motivated to build a big mansion to rattle around in and take care of? Yes, there will be a few and they are welcome to do that. This is about true freedom of choice, not controlled choice.
So it doesn’t matter if someone wants to create a mansion. Anyone can do it. Now think for yourself...how many people really would? Our truth of happiness would no longer be skewed by the pressure to present an image of wealth. Think for yourself, what would you do? I would be interested to know.
But how would things get done? Why would anyone work if they didn’t have to work?
It is in our nature to create, to think, to develop, and to do mundane chores. But now it would be with the desire and interest to do so, not the mandate. Imagine if everyone were set free to explore there truly personal interests, gifts and passions. Would things still get done? You bet! With an excitement and love unparalled by the motivation of any paycheck.
What about the things nobody wants to do?
If they are necessary tasks for the society, that in itself would be motivation for people to organize to see that they get it done as responsibility shared by all. As another writer on an abolish money plan stated...if shared, only a few hours would need to be done by many instead of a few having to do it all.
Why would people want to give up the power they have with their money?
My response to that is, who really wants artificially granted power? Is a CEO truly more powerful because he knows how to buy politicians and lie on his balance sheet? Is that more power? Consider if the shift goes from the “artificial” power of a few to the widescale empowerment of all. Imagine what type of place would that be to live in? Can you feel the rush of energy? joy? satisfaction and fulfillment?
What about those who don’t want to work? Don’t want to contribute?
We already have those folks don’t we? Consider how much cheaper and easier for us to care for them if we don’t have to focus on raising money and creating systems to do so. Again, an opportunity for true freedom of choice. We do have enough resources and technology for all. Matter of fact, people who don’t want to work save some resources and energy by not working. This also removes all judgement about what is work. Doesn’t being a philosopher or just spending time being social add to society? This also opens the doors for parents to spend time with and care for their children, for children to care for their elderly adults, for any number of expressions of life...not just what makes a “profit”.
What other benefits are there to abolishing the money system?
Spend a little time in your own fantasy around this. But here are a few I see:
You no longer have to live where your job is or where you can afford it...you can live where your friends and family are, thereby strengthening communities.
Without a profit incentive, I doubt that we would be bombarded with fast food, perhaps health and overall nutrition would improve.
Entertainment without commercials.
More truth.
Scientists working together to share ideas to create the very best, instead of in competition.
Manufacturing working together to create the best.
Things made to last.
Decreases in money driven crimes like prostitution, stealing, white collar crime etc.
More sharing...why does each individual need a lawn mower when one per neighborhood would do the trick?
More opportunity and time for education of a variety of subjects. No longer a need to focus into one expertise.
No tax forms to fill out.
All the energy of financial institutions would be moved back into society (did you know that 10 of the TOP 50 Public Companies are financial institutions. That is how much energy we are putting into supporting this system.)
The pursuit of life instead of money.
Let me just give an example of the difference this could make. Say you want to build a house. In the money free system, you find open land, go to the manufacturers and get materials (again, there would still be manufacturers, because there are people who enjoy making things), work with people to gather what you need - remember, we don’t need to clear cut a whole forest just so the lumber yard can make a profit by storing (hoarding) all this wood, you just have to get the materials you need for your house. Then gather a group of people who enjoy building houses. How do you find these people, you ask. Instead of a marketing/advertising system, there would be an information and resource system...but since its not profit based, instead of being manipulative...it would just be informative and truthful. (What a concept!) Ok...so you cooperate with others and create your house.
In todays system, lets talk about all the additional costs that need to be folded in to take care of people who need to make money....because we are in a money system.
Find a realtor to sell you the land. We won’t even go into people having “ownership over natural resources like oil, gas, land and water...(you can think for yourself the questionable logic of that.) Now in this process alone, we need to account for the realtor’s commission, the escrow fees, the financial institutions mortagage and interest payments, appraisal fees, inspection fees and taxes. I’m sure there is more, but that gives you an idea of how much has been tacked onto the process.
Then the materials to build. The manufactured equipment has had to go through a wholesale, distributor and retailer...all adding their percentage to the cost. Then you are also paying for the pensions and wonderfully high salaries of the upper management of these companies. Also as we mentioned before, the lumber company has been busily clear cutting because its more profitable for them to do things in bulk.
Then your construction crew needs money of course, cause they have bills to pay. They also need their insurance taken care of and in the cost of that insurance, you are paying for the insurance company’s salaries, expenses and the wonderfully high salaries they pay their executives. Then there are the contractor’s license fees, building permits, inspections again, labor union fees for electrical, plumbing etc.
I know I’m not even touching on everything, but this is the weight we’ve added to everything we do just to support a money system. And outside of this example, just think of retail, what used to be a simple formula of supply and demand is now a system of having to CREATE a demand in order for the system to grow. So we are constantly bombarded with things we don’t need being made to believe we need them.
Just to touch on this concept of having to create a demand here are just a few things to consider:
Two booming industries are the fast food industry and diet industry.
If the pharmaceutical industry is growing, it means there are more people getting sick rather than well. And the pharmaceutical industry has an incentive to grow.
Low quality products definitely create a demand for more.
We’ve seen the “synergy” created between analysts, accountants and corporate execs. The belief/fear created was you better make a big nest egg to survive your retirement, the way to do that is go into the stock market and HOLD ON for the long term - the analysts supported those fears and beliefs...meantime the executives have cashed out and well we know the end to that story.
The credit card system is actively helping everyone get everything the want, they are giving these low rates and encourage everyone to buy (artificial demand) after the debt is built up beyond paying back quickly, guess what is going to happen? You betcha, the interest rates will jump up again, and guess who’s stuck?
I could go on for days...but this should be enough to get you thinking. Can we afford to continue this system? I think not.
Comments and discussion would be greatly appreciated!!
29 Jul 2002 @ 14:58, by Linda Simmons
Abolish Money??!! How can we possible afford not to.
by Linda Simmons
When I first heard the concept “abolish money” I struggled with it. I loved the idea of not having to be focused on money for survival, but I couldn’t imagine what would replace it. Socialism? Communism? All things that we know will remove some freedoms. But when I began to think in terms of Abundance, I was able to shift.
I'm interested in starting a discussion of this concept. Please read full text and add your comments. :)
Abolish Money??!! How can we possible afford not to.
by Linda Simmons
When I first heard the concept “abolish money” I struggled with it. I loved the idea of not having to be focused on money for survival, but I couldn’t imagine what would replace it. Socialism? Communism? All things that we know will remove some freedoms. But when I began to think in terms of Abundance, I was able to shift.
All of those systems, capitalism, communism, and socialism are based on a sense of lack. A belief that there is not enough for all, a belief that someone has to “control” the resources.
When we let go of the idea we need to “control” the resources, we begin to recognize the abundance for all. Matter of fact we can see how capitalism is actually depleting our resources at a faster rate and without regard for the good of the whole. And if we don’t care for the good of the whole, we really haven’t taken care of any of us, for we are all connected to the whole.
There are times when we have to look at systems that we do because they seem to have “always” been there and ask...is this no longer serving me? This is a system that needs to be looked at closely.
We are currently trying to support a system that:
Supports and encourages competition instead of cooperation.
Dominates governmental decisions.
Encourages large scale environmental destruction...instead of only using what we need.
Encourages the creation of substandard “cheaper” goods to create return markets and to create larger profit margins.
Discourages maintenance and safety...again because of costs.
Drives a media focused on manipulation.
Drives products that thrive on addictions.
Uses fear as a motivator.
Creates polarity among people...perhaps even more than than sex, race and religion.
Is one of the leading reasons for crime in this world.
Uses up a tremedous amount of energy that could be directed toward actually making the world a better place to live.
When you consider credit, the government deficit, the stock market and financial institution games...its hard to see what is “real” about the system and the artificial nature of it begins to show through. Money has nothing to do with creating resources. All the resources, labor, ingenuity and technology exist. Money didn’t create these resources But we attached money to these resources and gave OUR power over to it. Money is almost like the fear of machines taking over...at one point is was developed to serve us and now we find out its in control. Or consider, those who have learned to master money are in control...not those who know how to master the resources. I’ll let you consider which skill is more important to our society.
OK...so money is a problem...but what else is there? The new concept is simple. Take money out of the equation is all. As I pointed out, money did not create the resources, technology or ingenuity...we just attached it to this things. So all we have to do is unattach it...let it go...just like we abolished slavery. We just said we aren’t going to have it anymore.
So I know this is stirring up your thinking, so let me move into some questions and answers to get the discussion going in your own mind.
How can we possible change the foundation of our society? What would take its place? Wouldn’t there be chaos?
I’m going to ask you to think about these questions. Not run and do statistical studies and calculations, just take a minute, get quiet, go into your heart and ask these questions. That is exactly where I went and received great comfort around my answers.
Would there be chaos or cooperation? My gut sense is there would be both, but in the long run cooperation would win out. And it certainly couldn’t get anymore chaotic then how things are now.
Wouldn’t we need to control the resources? Make sure everyone gets a fair share? How do we decide what is fair share, wouldn’t that need to be based on what they provide to society?
This is where I deviate from some of the other abolish money system plans. Again...this is coming from my gut feeling...we don’t have to “control” resources, we don’t have to judge what is fair or not fair, just cooperate and work together...we can work it out.
If you want to move into one of the big mansions and it is available, by all means go for it. If you want to build a big mansion and can get enough people together to help you build it...go for it. But this is what my gut sense tells me...if the big mansion is no longer a sign of wealth, matter of fact, ANYONE can have a big mansion...are you still motivated to build a big mansion to rattle around in and take care of? Yes, there will be a few and they are welcome to do that. This is about true freedom of choice, not controlled choice.
So it doesn’t matter if someone wants to create a mansion. Anyone can do it. Now think for yourself...how many people really would? Our truth of happiness would no longer be skewed by the pressure to present an image of wealth. Think for yourself, what would you do? I would be interested to know.
But how would things get done? Why would anyone work if they didn’t have to work?
It is in our nature to create, to think, to develop, and to do mundane chores. But now it would be with the desire and interest to do so, not the mandate. Imagine if everyone were set free to explore there truly personal interests, gifts and passions. Would things still get done? You bet! With an excitement and love unparalled by the motivation of any paycheck.
What about the things nobody wants to do?
If they are necessary tasks for the society, that in itself would be motivation for people to organize to see that they get it done as responsibility shared by all. As another writer on an abolish money plan stated...if shared, only a few hours would need to be done by many instead of a few having to do it all.
Why would people want to give up the power they have with their money?
My response to that is, who really wants artificially granted power? Is a CEO truly more powerful because he knows how to buy politicians and lie on his balance sheet? Is that more power? Consider if the shift goes from the “artificial” power of a few to the widescale empowerment of all. Imagine what type of place would that be to live in? Can you feel the rush of energy? joy? satisfaction and fulfillment?
What about those who don’t want to work? Don’t want to contribute?
We already have those folks don’t we? Consider how much cheaper and easier for us to care for them if we don’t have to focus on raising money and creating systems to do so. Again, an opportunity for true freedom of choice. We do have enough resources and technology for all. Matter of fact, people who don’t want to work save some resources and energy by not working. This also removes all judgement about what is work. Doesn’t being a philosopher or just spending time being social add to society? This also opens the doors for parents to spend time with and care for their children, for children to care for their elderly adults, for any number of expressions of life...not just what makes a “profit”.
What other benefits are there to abolishing the money system?
Spend a little time in your own fantasy around this. But here are a few I see:
You no longer have to live where your job is or where you can afford it...you can live where your friends and family are, thereby strengthening communities.
Without a profit incentive, I doubt that we would be bombarded with fast food, perhaps health and overall nutrition would improve.
Entertainment without commercials.
More truth.
Scientists working together to share ideas to create the very best, instead of in competition.
Manufacturing working together to create the best.
Things made to last.
Decreases in money driven crimes like prostitution, stealing, white collar crime etc.
More sharing...why does each individual need a lawn mower when one per neighborhood would do the trick?
More opportunity and time for education of a variety of subjects. No longer a need to focus into one expertise.
No tax forms to fill out.
All the energy of financial institutions would be moved back into society (did you know that 10 of the TOP 50 Public Companies are financial institutions. That is how much energy we are putting into supporting this system.)
The pursuit of life instead of money.
Let me just give an example of the difference this could make. Say you want to build a house. In the money free system, you find open land, go to the manufacturers and get materials (again, there would still be manufacturers, because there are people who enjoy making things), work with people to gather what you need - remember, we don’t need to clear cut a whole forest just so the lumber yard can make a profit by storing (hoarding) all this wood, you just have to get the materials you need for your house. Then gather a group of people who enjoy building houses. How do you find these people, you ask. Instead of a marketing/advertising system, there would be an information and resource system...but since its not profit based, instead of being manipulative...it would just be informative and truthful. (What a concept!) Ok...so you cooperate with others and create your house.
In todays system, lets talk about all the additional costs that need to be folded in to take care of people who need to make money....because we are in a money system.
Find a realtor to sell you the land. We won’t even go into people having “ownership over natural resources like oil, gas, land and water...(you can think for yourself the questionable logic of that.) Now in this process alone, we need to account for the realtor’s commission, the escrow fees, the financial institutions mortagage and interest payments, appraisal fees, inspection fees and taxes. I’m sure there is more, but that gives you an idea of how much has been tacked onto the process.
Then the materials to build. The manufactured equipment has had to go through a wholesale, distributor and retailer...all adding their percentage to the cost. Then you are also paying for the pensions and wonderfully high salaries of the upper management of these companies. Also as we mentioned before, the lumber company has been busily clear cutting because its more profitable for them to do things in bulk.
Then your construction crew needs money of course, cause they have bills to pay. They also need their insurance taken care of and in the cost of that insurance, you are paying for the insurance company’s salaries, expenses and the wonderfully high salaries they pay their executives. Then there are the contractor’s license fees, building permits, inspections again, labor union fees for electrical, plumbing etc.
I know I’m not even touching on everything, but this is the weight we’ve added to everything we do just to support a money system. And outside of this example, just think of retail, what used to be a simple formula of supply and demand is now a system of having to CREATE a demand in order for the system to grow. So we are constantly bombarded with things we don’t need being made to believe we need them.
Just to touch on this concept of having to create a demand here are just a few things to consider:
Two booming industries are the fast food industry and diet industry.
If the pharmaceutical industry is growing, it means there are more people getting sick rather than well. And the pharmaceutical industry has an incentive to grow.
Low quality products definitely create a demand for more.
We’ve seen the “synergy” created between analysts, accountants and corporate execs. The belief/fear created was you better make a big nest egg to survive your retirement, the way to do that is go into the stock market and HOLD ON for the long term - the analysts supported those fears and beliefs...meantime the executives have cashed out and well we know the end to that story.
The credit card system is actively helping everyone get everything the want, they are giving these low rates and encourage everyone to buy (artificial demand) after the debt is built up beyond paying back quickly, guess what is going to happen? You betcha, the interest rates will jump up again, and guess who’s stuck?
I could go on for days...but this should be enough to get you thinking. Can we afford to continue this system? I think not.
Comments and discussion would be greatly appreciated!!
Thursday, 8 January 2009
Stimulate the economy? Better curb it, ostracise it. The system economy has met its boundaries.
"It's just not that easy to figure out how to stimulate an economy in this condition,"
Stimulate the economy? Better curb it, ostracise it. You can not patch a system that met its boundaries, as witnessed by referring it as being in 'this condition'. That has so many holes.
And that is what someone does, trying to find solutions within the system. You need to go out of the system
Keep what it's worth, the 'goods' and the 'services' and scrap everything else. What, to create jobs, for the sole reason to maintain (or increase) a wasteful manic consumption, as the article declares
"... needs Americans to spend, spend, spend, and not to save."
which, as everybody knows, all these money, will find their way into deep fat pockets.
Use instead people dedicated and willing to furnish 'goods' and provide 'services'. The intrinsic value of 'goods' and 'services' stripped bare from the crutches of money, become paramount.
Their production, dispatch, distribution disengaged from the money medium, and become gradually available to all.
Scrap money.
Stimulate the economy? Better curb it, ostracise it. You can not patch a system that met its boundaries, as witnessed by referring it as being in 'this condition'. That has so many holes.
And that is what someone does, trying to find solutions within the system. You need to go out of the system
Keep what it's worth, the 'goods' and the 'services' and scrap everything else. What, to create jobs, for the sole reason to maintain (or increase) a wasteful manic consumption, as the article declares
"... needs Americans to spend, spend, spend, and not to save."
which, as everybody knows, all these money, will find their way into deep fat pockets.
Use instead people dedicated and willing to furnish 'goods' and provide 'services'. The intrinsic value of 'goods' and 'services' stripped bare from the crutches of money, become paramount.
Their production, dispatch, distribution disengaged from the money medium, and become gradually available to all.
Scrap money.
Wednesday, 5 November 2008
Current credit crunch: just a bear-bull game for stock markets to play or a point of no-return in the path for re-organizing societies
Thread-thoughts dangling their wares stimulating new thoughts
- Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens
- Credit crunch 'may hit UK growth'. What kind of growth are they talking about?
- The human mind is an invaluable asset to be wasted by the monetising societies.
- Throwing overboard relentlessly whatever is remotely connected with what is not agreed now.
- The paradigm shifts in our minds.
This article 'Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens' in Telegraph.co.uk announces the spread of the credit crisis in the shipping industry stating that
"The daily rental rates for Capesize big ships have dropped $234,000 to $7,340 in weeks, leaving operators stuck with heavy losses on long leases. Empty ships are now crowding Singapore and other global ports."
why would they be empty ships crowding Singapore and other ports? Are there no goods to be transported, has the world stopped producing
"... coal, iron ore, and grains, and other dry goods."
why in the same article states that
"... It is telling us that world trade in raw materials has slowed dramatically."
is it not the case that
" .... banks shut off credit lines to the industry .."
that created the woes in the shipping industry. Certainly, you would expect a reduction in the amount of raw materials produced worldwide, but not to the extent that they would entirely account in the announced downturn in the shipping industry.
And besides that, raw materials will get cheaper as they would cost less for the individuals the world over. What is the primary and foremost concern of the article's author, for such an unsolicited act? Interested only to safeguard the unscrupulous demands of shipowners, speculators, or any other parasites that suck up unreasonable profits, just because they happen to have the control of the means for rendering the services the world expects from them.
The comment by the article's reader John Wood,on October 29, 2008, at 05:04 PM, readers comments that have a lot more juice than the article has, gives a proper account of the reasons for the credit crunch
"All that this 'credit crunch' is doing is proving that you cannot borrow for growth indefinitely. It is like the cartoons when a character is carrying a leaking barrel of gunpowder and a fuse is lit behind. Eventually he stops, the lit fuse catches up and Kaboom."
incessant purposeless growth, growth for the sake of growth, that do not add any value in the lives of individuals, as the reader, O G Osborne, on October 29, 2008, at 07:43 AM, states
"Perhaps, as it's no longer easy to transport goods, de-industrialised nations that no longer produce anything but forms and pop music can start producing a real form of wealth again. Wait till fuel gets so expensive that we have to make stuff right where it's sold!"
De-industrialised that produce thin air, services that offer so little, materializing just for the sake of keeping societies in motion, creating jobs that are worthless and which are wasting individuals lives.
And on whose shoulders the burden will fall? The reader, A German in Spain, on October 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, spells it out
"Both countries will have to suffer a lot. Spain because of the housing crisis and low productivity and therefore unemployment and Germany because a big part of the industrial sector will be send on forced holidays for some time. Mercedes will close all factories for 5 weeks in December. In the end unemployment should soar there too."
Unemployment which is expected to rise, forced holidays and/or what has already been decided for Iceland
"... Iceland was forced to raise interest rates 6 percentage points to 18pc by the IMF as a condition for its $2bn (£1.3bn) rescue package."
straightaway, the burden is passed on to the people in Iceland to bear it, to bail out the handful of individuals that caused it, in the first place. A fate that is in store for other countries to come.
Whereas individuals who have exploited to the hilt their privileged positions, as the reader named Greek, on October 29, 2008,at 04:02 PM, stated in his comment
"Most of the traditional Greek Shipping companies, are very cash rich and have mortgage free ships. This drop in the market has been anticipated and is an opportunity to purchase more ships at reduced prices, only to have more mortgage free ships, when the market picks up again, as it will."
will remain unscathed and not only but, as the reader Aloicius, on October 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM so emphatically declares
"Today's piece is more of the same. The situation is shipping, banking and elsewhere is extremely serious but it is no more then par for the course as evidenced by the past couple of centuries of cycles and excesses. To the astute it spells opportunity while all the others whine and regret."
This callous remark, indicative of an individual so detached from his surroundings, so cocooned within his bubble, his little world, ignorant of others, sees the whole affair as just another opportunity for making more money. So much gives the essence in the whole shambles. For the astute, he says, it spells opportunity, while the others whine and regret. The astute, the wise guys, who would not be affected at all. And who are the ones that, not so much about whine, but certainly will regret it, all the other individuals, that through no fault of their own, they would allow these smart-alec individuals to make a kill and make more bucks.
They will continue their past practices, as the reader Peter Charter, on October 29, 2008, at 08:48 AM, states
"Having spent 10 years as a client of these shipping companies I am overjoyed at their demise. A more greedy, unreasonable, lazy bunch of proverbials you will never find. When the goods times roll they double their rates overnight, now listen to them bleat. Their mates the ship brokers are no better always using bunker prices as an excuse to add 50,000 to the charter rate. I will not be alone in rejoicing."
And certainly is not. Voices of this sort, as the reader's Chris, on October 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, are no longer shouted out in the desert
"Steve at 9:35 is right. It's absolutely wonderful that a destructive world economy system based on raping the planet to produce rubbishy goods most can do without is winding down. A system which requires year on year increase in rubbishy consumption and destroys families because it's all based on fractional reserve banking is breaking down. We should throw a party."
They no longer fall onto deaf ears, they are heard and get responded.
- Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens
- Credit crunch 'may hit UK growth'. What kind of growth are they talking about?
- The human mind is an invaluable asset to be wasted by the monetising societies.
- Throwing overboard relentlessly whatever is remotely connected with what is not agreed now.
- The paradigm shifts in our minds.
This article 'Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens' in Telegraph.co.uk announces the spread of the credit crisis in the shipping industry stating that
"The daily rental rates for Capesize big ships have dropped $234,000 to $7,340 in weeks, leaving operators stuck with heavy losses on long leases. Empty ships are now crowding Singapore and other global ports."
why would they be empty ships crowding Singapore and other ports? Are there no goods to be transported, has the world stopped producing
"... coal, iron ore, and grains, and other dry goods."
why in the same article states that
"... It is telling us that world trade in raw materials has slowed dramatically."
is it not the case that
" .... banks shut off credit lines to the industry .."
that created the woes in the shipping industry. Certainly, you would expect a reduction in the amount of raw materials produced worldwide, but not to the extent that they would entirely account in the announced downturn in the shipping industry.
And besides that, raw materials will get cheaper as they would cost less for the individuals the world over. What is the primary and foremost concern of the article's author, for such an unsolicited act? Interested only to safeguard the unscrupulous demands of shipowners, speculators, or any other parasites that suck up unreasonable profits, just because they happen to have the control of the means for rendering the services the world expects from them.
The comment by the article's reader John Wood,on October 29, 2008, at 05:04 PM, readers comments that have a lot more juice than the article has, gives a proper account of the reasons for the credit crunch
"All that this 'credit crunch' is doing is proving that you cannot borrow for growth indefinitely. It is like the cartoons when a character is carrying a leaking barrel of gunpowder and a fuse is lit behind. Eventually he stops, the lit fuse catches up and Kaboom."
incessant purposeless growth, growth for the sake of growth, that do not add any value in the lives of individuals, as the reader, O G Osborne, on October 29, 2008, at 07:43 AM, states
"Perhaps, as it's no longer easy to transport goods, de-industrialised nations that no longer produce anything but forms and pop music can start producing a real form of wealth again. Wait till fuel gets so expensive that we have to make stuff right where it's sold!"
De-industrialised that produce thin air, services that offer so little, materializing just for the sake of keeping societies in motion, creating jobs that are worthless and which are wasting individuals lives.
And on whose shoulders the burden will fall? The reader, A German in Spain, on October 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, spells it out
"Both countries will have to suffer a lot. Spain because of the housing crisis and low productivity and therefore unemployment and Germany because a big part of the industrial sector will be send on forced holidays for some time. Mercedes will close all factories for 5 weeks in December. In the end unemployment should soar there too."
Unemployment which is expected to rise, forced holidays and/or what has already been decided for Iceland
"... Iceland was forced to raise interest rates 6 percentage points to 18pc by the IMF as a condition for its $2bn (£1.3bn) rescue package."
straightaway, the burden is passed on to the people in Iceland to bear it, to bail out the handful of individuals that caused it, in the first place. A fate that is in store for other countries to come.
Whereas individuals who have exploited to the hilt their privileged positions, as the reader named Greek, on October 29, 2008,at 04:02 PM, stated in his comment
"Most of the traditional Greek Shipping companies, are very cash rich and have mortgage free ships. This drop in the market has been anticipated and is an opportunity to purchase more ships at reduced prices, only to have more mortgage free ships, when the market picks up again, as it will."
will remain unscathed and not only but, as the reader Aloicius, on October 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM so emphatically declares
"Today's piece is more of the same. The situation is shipping, banking and elsewhere is extremely serious but it is no more then par for the course as evidenced by the past couple of centuries of cycles and excesses. To the astute it spells opportunity while all the others whine and regret."
This callous remark, indicative of an individual so detached from his surroundings, so cocooned within his bubble, his little world, ignorant of others, sees the whole affair as just another opportunity for making more money. So much gives the essence in the whole shambles. For the astute, he says, it spells opportunity, while the others whine and regret. The astute, the wise guys, who would not be affected at all. And who are the ones that, not so much about whine, but certainly will regret it, all the other individuals, that through no fault of their own, they would allow these smart-alec individuals to make a kill and make more bucks.
They will continue their past practices, as the reader Peter Charter, on October 29, 2008, at 08:48 AM, states
"Having spent 10 years as a client of these shipping companies I am overjoyed at their demise. A more greedy, unreasonable, lazy bunch of proverbials you will never find. When the goods times roll they double their rates overnight, now listen to them bleat. Their mates the ship brokers are no better always using bunker prices as an excuse to add 50,000 to the charter rate. I will not be alone in rejoicing."
And certainly is not. Voices of this sort, as the reader's Chris, on October 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, are no longer shouted out in the desert
"Steve at 9:35 is right. It's absolutely wonderful that a destructive world economy system based on raping the planet to produce rubbishy goods most can do without is winding down. A system which requires year on year increase in rubbishy consumption and destroys families because it's all based on fractional reserve banking is breaking down. We should throw a party."
They no longer fall onto deaf ears, they are heard and get responded.
Wednesday, 22 October 2008
Credit crunch 'may hit UK growth'. What kind of growth are they talking about?
I read in the BBC website about the poor UK growth would be hit. What kind of growth is that, that individuals should be concerned about?
Economies would never ever change, if they continue to operate within the current monetary framework. Being all engrossed in an insane pursuit of a growth based on imaginary, man-made, artificial 'products', that they could be anything else but products.
Economies invented constructs, hanging over precariously; looming; barely supported on thin pillars; like snakes eating their own tails, with nothing solid underneath to sustain their existence, as they are drawn out of the short-sighted, ignorant insistence, to satisfy the needs of steadfastly prescribed monetary rules.
In states administrations, growth indicators become an obsession. Rigidly adhered administrations would account as growth anything that comes into their clutches, no matter where it is coming from. They would have easily accounted as growth even illicit activities, being these loots of bank robbers, drug profits, black market if it was in their hands and if they did not fear the public outcry.
Still they welcome in their folds anything, that ingenious entrepreneurs out of dragons dens out there, all eager to make a penny, make money for the money, so gave away the once free phone directory enquiry service to a horde of disparate providers, council-run car parking to aggressive greedy operators, with telecom companies charging the tenths of the seconds and lots of other initiatives, a mundane task to go through.
And this is the growth they are after? Growth based on thin air? Growth that draws its profits directly out of the pockets, of individuals in a society, being no different than an additional tax, that individuals could without it. No wonder economies fail. That there is a credit crunch, as individuals are squeezed even further, by what governments regard and relentlessly pursue, as growth.
Economies would never ever change, if they continue to operate within the current monetary framework. Being all engrossed in an insane pursuit of a growth based on imaginary, man-made, artificial 'products', that they could be anything else but products.
Economies invented constructs, hanging over precariously; looming; barely supported on thin pillars; like snakes eating their own tails, with nothing solid underneath to sustain their existence, as they are drawn out of the short-sighted, ignorant insistence, to satisfy the needs of steadfastly prescribed monetary rules.
In states administrations, growth indicators become an obsession. Rigidly adhered administrations would account as growth anything that comes into their clutches, no matter where it is coming from. They would have easily accounted as growth even illicit activities, being these loots of bank robbers, drug profits, black market if it was in their hands and if they did not fear the public outcry.
Still they welcome in their folds anything, that ingenious entrepreneurs out of dragons dens out there, all eager to make a penny, make money for the money, so gave away the once free phone directory enquiry service to a horde of disparate providers, council-run car parking to aggressive greedy operators, with telecom companies charging the tenths of the seconds and lots of other initiatives, a mundane task to go through.
And this is the growth they are after? Growth based on thin air? Growth that draws its profits directly out of the pockets, of individuals in a society, being no different than an additional tax, that individuals could without it. No wonder economies fail. That there is a credit crunch, as individuals are squeezed even further, by what governments regard and relentlessly pursue, as growth.
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